The job of guiding Kansas through a generation-defining public health crisis for nearly two years fell to Dr. Lee Norman. Until recently, and suddenly, it didn’t.
Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly recently fired him as secretary of the Kansas Department of Health and Environment after months of reducing his role as the face of the state’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
She then quickly replaced him with Janet Stanek, a longtime hospital administrator who’s worked for the past 21 years at Stormont-Vail Health in Topeka.
Stanek will take the helm of the agency on Monday.
During the first several months of the outbreak, Norman, dressed in a white lab coat, was at Kelly’s side at widely broadcast briefings.
That stopped in early summer, when Will Lawrence, the governor’s chief of staff, became concerned that Norman’s blunt style further strained relations between Kelly and Republican legislative leaders.
Emails obtained by the Kansas Reflector revealed that Lawrence ordered Norman to the sidelines.
On Nov. 19, Kelly announced that Norman was “stepping down.” But a few days later in an interview with the Kansas News Service, Norman disputed that. His interview has been edited for clarity and brevity.
Q: Were you fired?
Norman: I was asked to step down. I’m relatively new to state government. But I understand that when you work for the governor, it’s at the pleasure of the governor. That means when you’re asked to step down, you step down.
Q: To What extent did that tension between the governor and the Legislature affect the state’s pandemic response?
Norman: The divisiveness … really interfered with it. It was (like) sticking a stick into the spokes of a bicycle. There are many states where there hasn’t been this kind of conflict. Red states are more likely to have these kinds of squabbles. It’s especially true if the governor and legislature come from different sides of the aisle.
Q: Why did things get so political?
Norman: The shameful treatment in the Trump administration of public health leaders, I think, set the stage for having the same thing happen at the state level. (Anthony) Fauci was Faucied. And to be honest with you, I think I was Fauci’d.
Q: Lots of public health workers, particularly at the county level, quit because of conflicts with the public and county commissioners. Others were fired. How much of a toll has the pandemic taken on the state’s public health workforce?
